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Nexus 5 Price to Be $399 Because of Nexus 4 LTE Launch, Says Insider

With the Nexus 5 launch just around the corner we tried to find out more details about the upcoming smartphone co-developed by Google and LG. A source close to the Mountain View-based giant who wished to remain anonymous has revealed for us that the Nexus 5 will be more expensive than its predecessor.

According to him, the 16 GB Nexus 5 will be priced $399, while the 32 GB model will have price tag of $449 in Play Store. But why won’t the new Nexus have the same price point as Nexus 4? Because Google will also launch an LTE-enabled Nexus 4 synchronized with the debut of the Nexus 5. According to our source the technical specifications of the Nexus 4 LTE will be similar to the ones of the model launched last year. The only difference between the Nexus 4 LTE and the original Nexus 4 is the internal storage, as the LTE-enabled model will come with either 16 or 32 GB of storage, at the same prices at its predecessor $299 and $349, respectively.

In fact, Google and LG won’t even have to change anything inside the old Nexus 4 because the Snapdragon S4 Pro chipset that is fitted inside already comes with a 4G LTE chip. When the Nexus 4 was initially launched along with Android 4.2 there was a way to unofficially enable 4G LTE by accessing the “Phone info” menu from the dial pad, but the Android 4.2.2 update has killed the unofficial 4G LTE mode for Nexus 4.

If the Android 4.4 KitKat update re-enables the 4G LTE support for Nexus 4, then in theory, the owners of the old Nexus 4 units will also be able to take advantage of the new feature. This might also be the reason why we’ve seen so many leaks of Android 4.4 running on Nexus 4 devices.

As a reminder, the Nexus 5 is expected to arrive with a 5-inch 1080p LCD display, quad-core Snapdragon 800 chipset, 2 GB of RAM, 16/32 GB of storage, and an 8 MP camera with optical image stabilization.

Even though we trust our sources, we are advising you to take the information with a pinch of salt, as nothing is confirmed until Google makes an official announcement.

Reports have indicated that Google will announce the Nexus 5 and Android 4.4 KitKat today, October 14, but it looks like the launch event was moved to a later date since the Mountain View-based company didn’t sent in any invitations.

  • Carl McPherson

    The LTE radio included in the Nexus 4 was assessed and only includes signals for Canada and one other country which I forget.
    If google could do this though, they would need to improve the battery as the N4 has terrible battery life now, imagine if they did add LTE to it!!
    I dont think this will happen, but you never know I guess (although lets hope the pricing isnt too high as it may reduce sales)

    • newsjunkieintl

      Ignore this article! It’s laughably a hodgepodge of some older articles all thrown together.

      • Jesse

        Right – the nexus 4 didn’t even support AT&T LTE bands (but did support one T-mobile LTE band). You could enable it, however.

        This article doesn’t make any sense. Re-release the nexus 4 with LTE and not change any internal hardware? What? Why?

        • Serge Cebrian

          That would be like THE iPhone 5c.. Its The iPhone 5 but with colors. And the 5s is comparable to the nexus 5 … That is my guess

    • Bob Rhea

      I usually get two days out of mine. I suggest you check some of your settings like turning “google now” off, screen brightness, etc..

    • Mark Chavendish

      So Carl, I’ve had a N4 since day one, my battery is terrific (of course as a nexus user I compile my build from cherry picked source, and run a custom kernel tuned to my liking). Additionally I live in South Florida, I flip flop from MVNO to MVNO but I do get LTE (Band 4 AWS) from both T-mobile and AT&T (as well as with their MVNOs). The N4 has always had a LTE radio, it’s just that the antenna is neutered, and various base bands can restrict access to the radios. To that point there are ‘hybrid’ basebands that one can readily flash from CWM or TWRP to keep access to LTE and still run the latest builds of Android (4.3.1 as of responding). So while you may have poor battery performance, my guess is that the issue lies with you and not the hardware. LTE N4 is a pretty silly move on google’s behalf. Cut the N4 production queue, focus on getting 5s out to the masses and take $50 off of the prices respectively.

      • Carl McPherson

        Fair enough, although I am still sure it won’t work in the uk (where I live). I use my phone as my mp3 player, browser, game console and news feed using full screen brightness (I don’t do dim screens. Lol). I noticed my wife’s S3 lasts much longer even with the same usage. Both devices non rooted. I would love a nexus with the battery life of a Motorola.

        • Mark Chavendish

          Indeed there is no band 4 LTE in the UK. However as the owner of a nexus, there is NO reason not to unlock, install a custom rom (cyanogen 10.2 nightlies and very stable, or Paranoid Android) and custom kernel (Franco would be my recommendation). Custom rom custom kernel combined you’ll feel like you have a new phone.

          For what it’s worth I helped my friend unlock his s3 and flash PA to it along with a custom kernel (I can’t recall which one)… he was ready to upgrade to the s4, but is now super happy with the battery/LTE speed of the s3.

  • Nicholas Ng

    if this may happen, why would anyone buy the nexus 5 apart from a 1080p screen and better battery life? seems a bit of a weird release don’t you think?

    • newsjunkieintl

      Ignore them. This is obviously a very old article from months ago, into which they’ve thrown a couple of new paragraphs at the end. Throughout they keep calling it “Nexus 4 LTE” when the Nexus 5 will have all new specs and will be called the Nexus 5.

      Plus they contradict themselves, saying it’s going to be higher price, then saying it’s going to be same price. 🙂 It’s a Frankenstein article. Ignore it.

    • jralphroman

      You forgot to mention a better processor a better camera, should I go on?

  • newsjunkieintl

    The Nexus 5 announcement date was never Oct. 14. That was the internal “Technical Acceptance” date for all the Google managers/engineers to sign off on the project. The real announcement date comes after that.

    So, Google didn’t “move” anything.

    Plus, Google has never RELEASED a Nexus smartphone before November. NEVER.

    Of all the found Nexus phones so far, twice (gen3 2011, gen4 2012) Google ANNOUNCED the new Nexus in October, and RELEASED them in November. The previous two (gen2, gen1) were actually released in December and January.

    I think Google will have a full-blown show-and-tell press conference — for which invitations will be sent out a week or so ahead of time. Expect end of October, just like last year.

  • Alecs

    “If the Android 4.4 KitKat update re-enables the 4G LTE support for Nexus 4, then in theory, the owners of the old Nexus 4 units will also be able to take advantage of the new feature. This might also be the reason why we’ve seen so many leaks of Android 4.4 running on Nexus 4 devices.”

    What?!? You know that all the Nexus 4 released have no antenna for the LTE support right? OMG

    • Bob Rhea

      Actually they do I’m on LTE right now. 🙂 Look it up 😉

    • wes

      They have LTE support, but no amplifier. So the battery life sucks with LTE enabled.

      • Mark Chavendish

        I’m averaging about 18 hours before dead with LTE enabled.

        • wes

          What’s your usage? My gf gets about 2 days, but she’s not a power user.

          • Mark Chavendish

            about 50/50 on wifi/LTE I have an office, but spend a lot of time on south beach/downtown Miami. I use Maps, RDP and tether mostly when working as well as refreshing pulse (news aggregator) constantly, view and post on instagram. The usual crap. When tether I run a VPN so as to hide the content/browser IDs of my connected devices. US carriers have very aggressive packet sniffers these days to weed out those who tether on standard data plans. In the evenings I crush the hell out of some candy. Never a low battery

  • Alex Fischer

    At that price it is Good Bye Nexus for me 🙁

    • newsjunkieintl

      Article is bogus. Wait for the real pricing to be announced.

  • wes

    It’s been documented that the Nexus 4 doesn’t have an LTE receiver amplifier built-in, that’s why the battery life on the Nexus 4 is poor with the LTE hack. So if you have an old Nexus 4, I question whether the battery life will be good with LTE re-enabled (seeing that you don’t have a hardware component, the amplifier). I doubt Google will reactivate LTE on the old Nexus 4s. It doesn’t make sense in terms of a missing amplifier.

  • wes

    Bogus article and creating false hope on Google reactivating LTE on the old Nexus 4.

    Google: “LG explains that the Nexus 4 LTE connectivity is actually a dud”.

    THERE IS NO SIGNAL AMPLIFIER ON THE NEXUS 4! Do your research and use your brain! Google would never allow for the enabling of LTE on old Nexus 4s, that’s why they removed it with a software patch. STOP SPREADING FALSE HOPE!!!!!!


    • Mark Chavendish

      Wes I agree with you on your points about this being a roboarticle, but LTE is available on the N4 if you live in an area with band 4 AWS and use t-mobile or ATT. Google ”

      [ROM][Unofficial][LTE][4.3] CyanogenMod 10.2 Nightlies for the Nexus 4 (mako)” it’s on XDA all the info you need is there. Be sure to flash the youngest hybrid baseband.

      • wes

        I know LTE can be enabled, its built into the chip. LTE on the nexus 4 only supports band 7 if my memory serves me. I don’t deny the existence of LTE on the nexus 4 and that it works. But the hardware that’s missing means questionable battery life and what else? A software update isn’t going to fix the missing hardware components.

    • Serge Cebrian

      They could relaunch the nexus 4 with LTE now… Not nessesarily would have to be a software update to the n4 but a new n4(2013 with LTE internal amplifiers). And a new nexus5

      • wes

        That’s different than what this article is suggesting, which is that Google will enable the LTE antenna on the old nexus 4 even though it is missing an amplifier. Also the hack only worked in Canada with only band 7? that worked. Will Google release a refrefreshed nexus 4 with LTE? Only time will tell.

  • David Orr

    This is not going to happen. If Google were to refresh the Nexus 4, they would have just done it already in the play store — no need to spend weeks with no smartphone offering on the play store just to have a ‘big announcement’ for a mediocre product (Disclosure: I love my Nexus 4 so so much but it is not a modern device anymore worthy of a conference)

  • Chris Caldwell

    WOW would this ever be a bad move. Charge $100 more just for LTE. Believe it or not, a lot of us dont care about LTE, and they would remove the biggest draw to the nexus devices, the price. Not to mention, why would anyone want to buy last years phone for nearly the same amount? And who cares about additional storage in the N4? I hardly use 10% of it as well. This whole article stinks of BS. Oh, and perhaps kitkat running on the Nexus 4 was because the new phone….. is called a nexus 4.

    Look, bitch all you want, but theres some patterns already set:
    1. devices are named on the screen size
    2. they dont offer old models for sale with minor upgrades glued on to justify raising the price

    Why come up with obscure conspiracies when the pattern fits?

    • Vincent Marino

      Just the tablets are named on screen size. The Nexus One had a 3.7 inch screen, the Nexus S and GNex didn’t have numbers (and came in at 4 and 4.65 inches, respectively) and the Nexus 4 was the Nexus 4 because it was the fourth Nexus phone. They will have to change the names soon, though, since in two years they’d face a problem between a Nexus 7 phone and tablet.

      • MelchiahX

        I’m afraid you’re wrong on this. I agree the nexus one up till the gnex Google didn’t make their devices after screen sizes but they started that trend after the release of the nexus 7. Hence why they called the 10.1″ tablet the nexus 10 and the nexus 4 after its screen size and not it’s chronological order. It was just fluke that it happened to be the 4th gen phone. So in theory if the new nexus phone was not a 5″screened phone and something closer to the nexus 4’s screen size they would’ve still called it the nexus 4 (2013) like they did withwith the new nexus 7. I think Google thought up the idea of calling devices after screen sizes with the launch of the nexus 7. I really think Google will be focusing A LOT on their nexus lineup over the years as more and more ppl start to realize how much better they are when compared to other android devices.

        • Vincent Marino

          I’d still have to say I disagree with this. 4.7″ is even too close to five inches (we’re only looking at about a .25 or .26″ increase here) to be considered four, which would be a stupid base for the name. Even the GNex is 4.65″, still too big. The Nexus S would be the only logical “Nexus 4” if based on screen size. I do get that you think they started the trend with the Nexus 7 and 10, being released after the first three phones. I think Google just wanted to keep it simple and go with “Nexus 4” being the fourth phone.

          • MelchiahX

            You’re right the nexus 4 was closer to 5″ than 4 but in the tech industry ppl would never consider a 4.7″ device a 5″phone. For example three galaxy s3 had a screen of 4.8″ but no one ever thought of calling it a 5″phone. The HTC one x had a 4.7″ screen and again no one called a 5″. The gs4 has a screen of 4.99″ and they cal it a 5″ screen because it makes more sense. The nexus 5’s screen will be 4.96″ I believe so ppl will surely call it a 5″ device. At the end of the day no one knows for sure because Google never really explained their naming scheme to anyone so I’m just talking based on personal observation and opinion. The only way we’ll know for sure is when they release next year’s nexus phone and hopefully it won’t be a 6″ phone cuz that’ll just bring us back to square one lol.

          • Vincent Marino

            I agree that we don’t know (it’s Google, after all), but I never said anyone considered the GNex or Nexus 4 a 5″ phone. I was just saying that they’re both closer to 5″ than 4″, so it would be illogical to say the Nexus 4 was called the 4 based on screen size. And I really hope they don’t make a 6″ Nexus lol. That’s just too big.

            Either way, like you said, nobody knows for sure.

        • newsjunkieintl

          Nope, two of the four nexus phones had the gen number in their name. Not coincidence.

          Nexus 4 was the 4th Nexus — but was the THIRD to have 4″ or more screen (4.0″. 4.65, 4.7″). Nexus One was the first Nexus (at 3.7″), and it did not have a 1″ screen.

          At some point Google will have to clarify/change their phone naming system, but twice now they have clearly put generation names in their Nexus title.

          • blah blahhh

            actually, ONCE they have clearly put the generation in the name, on the very first one. The second time, with the N4, you assume it was generational. Its cyclical logic to use your assumption of the name’s roots as proof of the name’s roots.
            It’s pretty clear to me that last year’s generation of devices were both unified and distinguished by having a name of the brand followed by the screen size, and this was confirmed by the release of the N713. For the life of me I cant understand why people would now believe that the phone is somehow exempt from this and that Google was stupid enough to not see the collision that would happen 3 years later by having two separate naming schemes.

            Look, its simple. There are two possible scenarios.

            Scenario one, Nexus devices are now, due to there being more than one and the key feature being screen size, named by screen size.

            Scenario two is that Google named tablets by screen size because they are technically the same except for screen size, and phones, which are also technically the same except for the screen size, by series, even though they previously did not follow that naming scheme, because they failed to see the obvious and impending naming conflict, and the fact that the names match up perfectly with scenario one is a coincidence. Further, Google will likely continue both of these conflicting naming schemes, despite the widely known conflict and easy fix, until it becomes a marketing nightmare.

            Why would anyone buy into scenario two?

          • newsjunkieintl

            I think they named the Nexus 4 after the generation because they wanted to. And it also fits with the Nexus 5, which it technically shy of 5.0″. 🙂

            They still have time to change their naming scheme as NEXT year they will probably be in 5.2″, 5.5″ territory. They will not keep the Nexus 5 name and probably start calling it the Nexus (Something). fill in the blank.

          • Vincent Marino

            Just because they named the tablets after the screen size and released a new Nexus 7 with the same name doesn’t mean they kept that for the phones.

            The way I see it, the tablets fill their own niches, both separately and from the phones. You either get a smaller 7″ tablet or a 10″ one, depending on your preference. They were probably named based on screen size for the sake of simplicity. It’s easy to tell what size you’re getting just based on the name. When they released the N713, it was a new Nexus 7, not a new Nexus tablet altogether.

            The phones are meant to be phones, and the tablets are meant to be tablets, so they probably want to have a different naming system in order.

            They’re not releasing a new Nexus 4, they’re releasing a new Nexus phone, so it would make sense to name it the Nexus 5 (although we don’t know for sure yet, so this is just logical speculation).

  • TrOuBLeDbOy

    why would google release a nexus 4 but with LTE? this makes no sense i mean who will buy a year old phone when a newer one is being release

  • newsjunkieintl

    This article is complete hogwash. There will be no “Nexus 4 LTE” . Google only releases one model per year, to influence design. The Nexus 5 is the 2013 Nexus phone, there will be no others. It’s unlocked, has multiple LTE bands, CDMA, HSPA+ is 4.96″ with full HD 1080p, 2GB RAM, 8PM OIS camera and comes with Snapdragon 800. PLUS, it’s a hair smaller than the Nexus 4. Yeah, they packed a 4.96″ 1080p display into a case a hair smaller than last year’s 4.7″ 720 Nexus 4.

    And it will be PRICED close to last year’s Nexus 4.

    If they re-released a Nexus 4, even with LTE, it would LOSE in all the benchmark tests as CPUs have moved on. Google is not going to do something stupid like that. They have a winner with the LG G2-based Nexus 5 — and they will be going full throttle with that.

    Google looks forward, they don’t look back. There will not be a “runner up” Nexus, it will only be the gen5 Nexus 5.

  • Peacen1k

    I’ll have to go with the common sense crowd and say BS.

    Have a nice evening.

  • BD1971

    They won’t be launching a Nexus 4 LTE because it would need to go through the FCC for certification and nowhere have I seen or read about that having happen.

  • jack

    This article is completely bogus to increase traffice … Even I could create a rummor by saying leaked source … Just due to this article all blog sites are assuming new price .

    Google sells nexus to advertise and not make huge profit like other company … Nexus 4 LTE is Just not possible

  • Oli72

    will be waiting ONLINE for this.